Posts by Perfection Seeker

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

THANKS! Heading to that website now! :-)

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

HI! Thanks, yet one more time, for the excellent advice! I can't locate the Randy Watters page, but from what you say- its something I'd really like to read! I guess to me, instead of getting my family out- I just want to be out & not hassled. Thanks! :-)

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

You guys are so cool! Is there a limit to how many times I can say that? :-) Someone posted "Tell your mom you left the organization, not Jehovah" I have told her this MANY times, and she always says- in the bible- there has ALWAYS been one TRUE organization. There was only ONE ark that saved people, blah blah blah. They have a concrete wall up, and there is no way to tear it down. I guess I really don't want to have her leave "THE TRUTH" because she is happy, and it works for her. BUT, doing what I am doing works for me- I can respect her- but she can't respect me. Oh well, I have till next Saturday to plan my next strategy! Thanks! MELISSA

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

You guys are so cool :-) Someday, in a year or so, if the system lasts-lol- I will be just like you- helping some newbie figure things out :-) Funny, when my mom left- I was hot- but time & reading these posts makes it less important. Thanks once again! Send me the bill! :-)

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Question for JWS: What About Graveside Visitation?

by Room 215 in

jw
friends

here's a question for those who keep current with ever-changing jw policy: what is the wtbts's current policy with regard to visitation of gravesides, bringing flowers, etc.

by widows, widowers, grieving relatives.

it used to be something of which they took a dim view, and impugned the spirituality of anyone who made a practice of it: ``let the dead bury the dead,'' and all that.

Perfection Seeker

In my congregation- they said why would you visit a grave? Not like the person can see you or hear you or benefit from you going? Why decorate the graveside- they are "sleeping" not looking down from heaven to see you do it. Personally, my dad is creamated- and in an urn on my moms shelf- but if he was in a grave- would be nice to go- and just reflect or cry. I've been "out" since 1995 mentally- so not sure what the "new light" is or even the old light. With me- hard to know which was the Organization or jus the elders in my hall. They had rules & opinions on EVERYTHING!

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

My mother wouldn't respect my asking "Please give me space" or "Don't discuss religion" because it means my "life" I have said it a zillion times- she said "If you saw a child on a railroad track- and a train coming- wouldn't you go help him off?" I said "Yes, but if it was an adult........" :-) My mother is weird. If she wasn't a witness, I would think she was demon possessed! She is so freaky! I even told her I thought the organization is a cult- and looked up the definition with her- she said "Then it is a cult- cause all this is true, but it is for our own good" I told her she was brainwashed, she said "Then Jehovah must have thought I needed brainwashing" I say- you can't make up your own mind- the organization tells you what to do & say & think , she says "They put YEARS & YEARS of training, translating, scholars, research- and I trust them that they know what is best for me" Then, I said- how do you think your family felt when you joined a cult? She said "I went from smoking, doing drugs, not caring, drinking, to straightening up my life & becoming a better person" I said- "I left the organization, stopped drinking, smoking & doing drugs, and became a good christian" Then of course she said I was never a witness, and with my new understanding & "adulthood" & christian outlook I should give it another try. Oh, today she said "The sign of the TRUE religion- as in her talk or part Thursday night 1) Tell others Gods name 2) Love among themselves- not sure what else. Well, the church I go to has love amongst themselves, and they WANT to be there- and don't just go so they don't get in trouble! I told my mom I had no intentions of being a second generation witness- just because I was raised in it- and it was time to question my faith. Then she said at the district convention, instead of saying we are in the last days- they said- FINAL PHASE- whatever the hell that meant. Oh, she said the ark door was closed long before it started raining, so it might already be too late for me.......................................... So, you mean I won't get to spend eternity with you & a bunch of other witnesses? How sad...............

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Naughty words I said to my female client yesterday

by SixofNine in

jw
friends

"did you have a nice fourth?

"

Perfection Seeker

SIX OF NINE- YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT!??!?! SAY YOU DIDN'T! YOU "BAD SHEEP" YOU! :-)

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YOU WILL SUCK

by minimus in

jw
friends

according to isa.66:10&11 we are told "you will suck and certainly get satisfaction".

what does this mean?

?

Perfection Seeker

I am editing this because my reply was an inappropriate sexual comment. I apologize.

Melissa

Edited by - perfection seeker on 6 July 2002 14:3:47

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

I appreciate all your posts & understand what you're saying. BUT, if I get 3 emails from my mother daily- saying how I am misled, how I don't love Jehovah, how I am so lost- how I am ruining the family, etc- it takes a toll. I almost WISH I was disfellowshipped- so they wouldn't be able to get their claws in me! My husband says they only have the power we give them- somewhere along the line- I must have given them ALOT of power. They push push push & say their opinions & judge you- yet we aren't allowed to say ANYTHING- for fear it will push them away. YET, the guilt sucks. I guess I wanted to say ONE thing to her today- just one thing that would make me smile, after her 45 minute speech, but I just couldn't. I guess I wouldn't knock on her door every Saturday morning for 45 minutes & say NEGATIVE witness things, yet she can do the pushing in HER direction, and that is "OK" cause its the "truth". I guess I do remember being in- and wanting to save people, but this is just overwhelming! Got on antidepressants yet again this week- cause of all the preaching & pushing she is doing- and I am not able to push back- and for me, whos family ties are SOO strong- I mean- like EVERY member of the family emails at LEAST once a day & calls- so there are strong ties- yet they don't know I go to church- HAPPILY- and think I don't love God. If it were a stranger- I could roll it off- but family- UGH! They know all the right buttons! I guess it is mostly guilt or doubt that gets me. I don't want to doubt, or let them project guilt onto me about ruining the family, or never seeing my dad when he gets ressurected, blah blah blah. If you knew my mother- you would understand! She is the MOTHER SHIP of the congregation, family, etc. Her tentacles are wrapped around EVERYONE

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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

by Perfection Seeker in

i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

i had found this site shortly before she went.

Perfection Seeker

I'm on the way to the bookstore now! :-) THANKS